Talk:Carlos De Vil/@comment-69.35.211.250-20150819042624

Okay, so how does Carlos being gay make it pg 13. Please explain. Sexuality is not something you chose- it's something you're born with. You can't just assume that all kids are born uber straight and then suddenly decide to be gay. I see people praise this movie all the time for the message it sends, like how you don't have to be like your parents, or that you don't have to dumb down for a guy. Imagine all the little kids out there, seven and eight year olds, who are feeling so confused because they don't think any little girls in their class are cute. Imagine if they saw Carlos, being gay, and realized that it's a-okay. That they didn't grow up with all that fear of coming out, or suffer from internalized homophobia. A completely innocent relationship, even if it happens to be between two guys, does not make this unsuitable for children. You can claim you support LGBT+ people on here, yet you think kids shouldn't witness a relationship between two male characters, even if they're not doing anything wrong. Somehow, I call bull crap. You forget the director is Kenny Ortega, who supported Ryan's character being gay on HSM, Carlos IS really flirty with Jay (and no, I'm not the one that put it on there), and that Carlos has never shown any romantic attention to girls. At. All. You can talk all you want about how he danced with Jane, and how Jay danced with Audrey, but remember that they were part of the ridiculing directed their way after family day. One frame that lasted for about ten seconds of them dancing does not make them a couple or with any romantic intention. Audrey is dating Chad anyways, so that's also a point to how it doesn't mean there's a plausible relationship. Not trying to start a fight, but these comments are infuriating, because people act like being gay is something to be ashamed of.