Talk:Carlos De Vil/@comment-69.35.211.250-20150819042624/@comment-69.35.211.243-20150822060246

Yeah, we can't assume he's gay. But can we assume he's straight? When you walk down the street you assume everyone is straight unless they clarify. They have to identify themselves. Why is that? Heteronormativity. That's why.

Yeah, he totally COULD just see Jay as a brother. But if we get into could's, we can also say Carlos and Evie COULD have a secret relationship. Mal COULD secretly be a fairy. Ben COULD be asexual. The thing that makes you get behind these theories is evidence. There is some evidence that Carlos and Jane could be a couple. But there is more evidence that Jay and Carlos could have feelings for each other. And people can say "Jay flirted with girls!" or "They never said anything!" More than two sexualities, for the Jay thing. For Carlos, there was literally one dance with Jane, they didn't interact over the course of the entire movie until then, and it was certainly never talked about them having feelings for each other. Subtext. Subtext is what people get behind. I went into watching this movie without my shipper eyes on, I wasn't looking for anything that seemed like they could be a couple. But partway through the movie I realized "Dang, Carlos and Jay are acting pretty gay for each other." And then I really started to watch. I looked closer. I noticed the little touches they exchanged and the way they looked at each other like they hung the stars and the moon. Subtext. Subtext is what gives us these ideas. We're not forcing gay on anyone. We're working with what we've been provided with.